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1 Objection 1: It seems that predestination cannot be furthered by the prayers of the saints. For nothing eternal can be preceded by anything temporal; and in consequence nothing temporal can help towards making something else eternal. But predestination is eternal. Therefore, since the prayers of the saints are temporal, they cannot so help as to cause anyone to become predestined. Predestination therefore is not furthered by the prayers of the saints.

1 Ad octavum sic proceditur. Videtur quod praedestinatio non possit iuvari precibus sanctorum. Nullum enim aeternum praeceditur ab aliquo temporali, et per consequens non potest temporale iuvare ad hoc quod aliquod aeternum sit. Sed praedestinatio est aeterna. Cum igitur preces sanctorum sint temporales, non possunt iuvare ad hoc quod aliquis praedestinetur. Non ergo praedestinatio iuvatur precibus sanctorum.

2 Objection 2: Further, as there is no need of advice except on account of defective knowledge, so there is not need of help except through defective power. But neither of these things can be said of God when He predestines. Whence it is said: Who hath helped the Spirit of the Lord? Or who hath been His counsellor? Rm. 11, 34). Therefore predestination cannot be furthered by the prayers of the saints.

2 Praeterea, sicut nihil indiget consilio nisi propter defectum cognitionis, ita nihil indiget auxilio nisi propter defectum virtutis. Sed neutrum horum competit Deo praedestinanti, unde dicitur Rom. XI, quis adiuvit spiritum domini? Aut quis consiliarius eius fuit? Ergo praedestinatio non iuvatur precibus sanctorum.

3 Objection 3: Further, if a thing can be helped, it can also be hindered. But predestination cannot be hindered by anything. Therefore it cannot be furthered by anything.

3 Praeterea, eiusdem est adiuvari et impediri. Sed praedestinatio non potest aliquo impediri. Ergo non potest aliquo iuvari.

4 On the contrary, It is said that Isaac besought the Lord for his wife because she was barren; and He heard him and made Rebecca to conceive Gn. 25, 21). But from that conception Jacob was born, and he was predestined. Now his predestination would not have happened if he had never been born. Therefore predestination can be furthered by the prayers of the saints.

4 Sed contra est quod dicitur Genes. XXV, quod Isaac rogavit Deum pro Rebecca uxore sua, et dedit conceptum Rebeccae. Ex illo autem conceptu natus est Iacob, qui praedestinatus fuit. Non autem fuisset impleta praedestinatio, si natus non fuisset. Ergo praedestinatio iuvatur precibus sanctorum.

5 I answer that, Concerning this question, there were different errors. Some, regarding the certainty of divine predestination, said that prayers were superfluous, as also anything else done to attain salvation; because whether these things were done or not, the predestined would attain, and the reprobate would not attain, eternal salvation. But against this opinion are all the warnings of Holy Scripture, exhorting us to prayer and other good works. Others declared that the divine predestination was altered through prayer. This is stated to have the opinion of the Egyptians, who thought that the divine ordination, which they called fate, could be frustrated by certain sacrifices and prayers.

Against this also is the authority of Scripture. For it is said: But the triumpher in Israel will not spare and will not be moved to repentance 1 Kgs. 15, 29); and that the gifts and the calling of God are without repentance Rm. 11, 29). Wherefore we must say otherwise that in predestination two things are to be considered, namely, the divine ordination; and its effect. As regards the former, in no possible way can predestination be furthered by the prayers of the saints.

For it is not due to their prayers that anyone is predestined by God. As regards the latter, predestination is said to be helped by the prayers of the saints, and by other good works; because providence, of which predestination is a part, does not do away with secondary causes but so provides effects, that the order of secondary causes falls also under providence. So, as natural effects are provided by God in such a way that natural causes are directed to bring about those natural effects, without which those effects would not happen; so the salvation of a person is predestined by God in such a way, that whatever helps that person towards salvation falls under the order of predestination; whether it be one's own prayers or those of another; or other good works, and such like, without which one would not attain to salvation.

Whence, the predestined must strive after good works and prayer; because through these means predestination is most certainly fulfilled. For this reason it is said: Labor more that by good works you may make sure your calling and election 2 Pt. 1, 10).

5 Respondeo dicendum quod circa hanc quaestionem diversi errores fuerunt. Quidam enim, attendentes certitudinem divinae praedestinationis, dixerunt superfluas esse orationes, vel quidquid aliud fiat ad salutem aeternam consequendam, quia his factis vel non factis, praedestinati consequuntur, reprobati non consequuntur. Sed contra hoc sunt omnes admonitiones sacrae Scripturae, exhortantes ad orationem, et ad alia bona opera. Alii vero dixerunt quod per orationes mutatur divina praedestinatio. Et haec dicitur fuisse opinio Aegyptiorum, qui ponebant ordinationem divinam, quam fatum appellabant, aliquibus sacrificiis et orationibus impediri posse.

Sed contra hoc etiam est auctoritas sacrae Scripturae. Dicitur enim I Reg. XV, porro triumphator in Israel non parcet, neque poenitudine flectetur. Et Rom. XI dicitur quod sine poenitentia sunt dona Dei et vocatio. Et ideo aliter dicendum, quod in praedestinatione duo sunt consideranda, scilicet ipsa praeordinatio divina, et effectus eius. Quantum igitur ad primum, nullo modo praedestinatio iuvatur precibus sanctorum, non enim precibus sanctorum fit, quod aliquis praedestinetur a Deo. Quantum vero ad secundum, dicitur praedestinatio iuvari precibus sanctorum, et aliis bonis operibus, quia providentia, cuius praedestinatio est pars, non subtrahit causas secundas, sed sic providet effectus, ut etiam ordo causarum secundarum subiaceat providentiae.

Sicut igitur sic providentur naturales effectus, ut etiam causae naturales ad illos naturales effectus ordinentur, sine quibus illi effectus non provenirent; ita praedestinatur a Deo salus alicuius, ut etiam sub ordine praedestinationis cadat quidquid hominem promovet in salutem, vel orationes propriae, vel aliorum, vel alia bona, vel quidquid huiusmodi, sine quibus aliquis salutem non consequitur. Unde praedestinatis conandum est ad bene operandum et orandum, quia per huiusmodi praedestinationis effectus certitudinaliter impletur. Propter quod dicitur II Petr. I, satagite, ut per bona opera certam vestram vocationem et electionem faciatis.

6 Reply to Objection 1: This argument shows that predestination is not furthered by the prayers of the saints, as regards the preordination.

6 Ad primum ergo dicendum quod ratio illa ostendit quod praedestinatio non iuvatur precibus sanctorum, quantum ad ipsam praeordinationem.

7 Reply to Objection 2: One is said to be helped by another in two ways; in one way, inasmuch as he receives power from him: and to be helped thus belongs to the weak; but this cannot be said of God, and thus we are to understand, Who hath helped the Spirit of the Lord? In another way one is said to be helped by a person through whom he carries out his work, as a master through a servant. In this way God is helped by us; inasmuch as we execute His orders, according to 1 Cor. 3, 9: We are God's co-adjutors. Nor is this on account of any defect in the power of God, but because He employs intermediary causes, in order that the beauty of order may be preserved in the universe; and also that He may communicate to creatures the dignity of causality.

7 Ad secundum dicendum quod aliquis dicitur adiuvari per alium, dupliciter. Uno modo, inquantum ab eo accipit virtutem, et sic adiuvari infirmi est, unde Deo non competit. Et sic intelligitur illud, quis adiuvit spiritum domini? Alio modo dicitur quis adiuvari per aliquem, per quem exequitur suam operationem, sicut dominus per ministrum. Et hoc modo Deus adiuvatur per nos, inquantum exequimur suam ordinationem, secundum illud I ad Cor. III, Dei enim adiutores sumus. Neque hoc est propter defectum divinae virtutis, sed quia utitur causis mediis, ut ordinis pulchritudo servetur in rebus, et ut etiam creaturis dignitatem causalitatis communicet.

8 Reply to Objection 3: Secondary causes cannot escape the order of the first universal cause, as has been said above Question 19, Article 6), indeed, they execute that order. And therefore predestination can be furthered by creatures, but it cannot be impeded by them.

8 Ad tertium dicendum quod secundae causae non possunt egredi ordinem causae primae universalis, ut supra dictum est; sed ipsum exequuntur. Et ideo praedestinatio per creaturas potest adiuvari, sed non impediri.

Word list
I q. 23 a. 8: Whether predestination can be furthered by the prayers of the saints? · 198 unique words
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Nouns (59)
causa, causae f · 1st
cause, reason ×6
creatura, creaturae f · 1st
creation ×2
paenitentia, paenitentiae f · 1st
regret
providentia, providentiae f · 1st
foresight, providence ×2
Rebecca, Rebeccae f · 1st
Rebecca ×2
scriptura, scripturae f · 1st
writing ×2
Aegyptius, Aegyptiī m · 2nd
Egyptian, an Egyptian
consiliarius, consiliariī m · 2nd
counselor, adviser
corinthius, corinthiī m · 2nd
Corinthian, of Corinth
deus, deī m · 2nd
God, god ×8
dominus, dominī m · 2nd
lord; the Lord ×3
minister, ministrī m · 2nd
attendant, servant
modus, modī m · 2nd
manner, mode ×4
Petrus, Petrī m · 2nd
Peter
Romanus, Romanī m · 2nd
Roman, a Roman ×2
auxilium, auxiliī n · 2nd
help, assistance
consilium, consiliī n · 2nd
counsel, plan
donum, donī n · 2nd
gift, present
fatum, fatī n · 2nd
an utterance of the gods, destiny, fate
sacrificium, sacrificiī n · 2nd
sacrifice
adiutor, adiutōris m · 3rd
assistant, deputy
error, erroris m · 3rd
a wandering, error
homo, hominis m · 3rd
man, human being
Israel m · 3rd
Israel
ordo, ordinis m · 3rd
row, order, rank ×4
rex, rēgis m · 3rd
king
triumphator m · 3rd
one who triumphs, a conqueror
admonitio, admonitionis f · 3rd
a reminding, admonition
auctoritas, auctoritatis f · 3rd
authority
causalitas, causalitatis f · 3rd
causality
certitudo, certitudinis f · 3rd
certitude, certainty
cognitio, cognitiōnis f · 3rd
examination, inquiry, investigation
dignitas, dignitatis f · 3rd
worth, dignity
electio, electiōnis f · 3rd
choice, selection
genesis, genesis f · 3rd
Genesis
operatio, operatiōnis f · 3rd
operation
opinio, opiniōnis f · 3rd
belief, idea
oratio, ōrātiōnis f · 3rd
prayer, speech ×5
ordinatio, ordinatiōnis f · 3rd
an arrangement, an ordinance ×2
pars, partis f · 3rd · i-stem
part, region
poenitudo, poenitudinis f · 3rd
repentance, regret
praedestinatio, praedestinationis f · 3rd
predestination ×17
praeordinatio, praeordinationis f · 3rd
a preordaining, preordination ×2
prex, precis f · 3rd
prayer, request ×9
pulchritudo, pulchritūdinis f · 3rd
beauty, excellence
quaestio, quaestiōnis f · 3rd
questioning, inquiry
ratio, ratiōnis f · 3rd
reason, account
salus, salūtis f · 3rd
salvation, safety ×4
uxor, uxoris f · 3rd
wife
virtus, virtutis f · 3rd
strength, power ×3
vocatio, vocatiōnis f · 3rd
calling ×2
opus, operis n · 3rd
need ×3
conceptus, conceptūs m · 4th
a conception, notion
defectus, defectūs m · 4th
defect, failure ×3
effectus, effectūs m · 4th
effect ×6
spiritus, spiritūs m · 4th
breath, breathing ×2
res, reī f · 5th
res
Iacob m
Jacob
isaac m
Isaac
Verbs (49)
adiuvō, adiuvāre, adiuvī, adiutum 1st conj
help, aid ×8
appellō, appellāre, appellāvī, appellātum 1st conj
call
communicō, communicāre, communicāvī, communicātum 1st conj
share
conor, conārī, conātus sum 1st conj
attempt
considerō, considerāre, considerāvī, considerātum 1st conj
examine
dō, dare, dedī, datum 1st conj
give
exhortor, exhortārī, exhortātus sum 1st conj
encourage
iuvo 1st conj
help, assist ×10
mutō, mutāre, mutāvī, mutātum 1st conj
move, change
operor, operārī, operātus sum 1st conj
work, labor
ordinō, ordināre, ordināvī, ordinātum 1st conj
order
ōrō, ōrāre, ōrāvī, ōrātum 1st conj
pray, plead
praedestinō, praedestināre, praedestināvī, praedestinātum 1st conj
predestine, predetermine ×7
reprobō, reprobāre, reprobāvī, reprobātum 1st conj
condemn
rogō, rogāre, rogāvī, rogātum 1st conj
ask, ask for
servō, servāre, servāvī, servātum 1st conj
watch over
impleō, implēre, implēvī, impletum 2nd conj
fill up ×2
indigeō, indigēre, indiguī 2nd conj
need, lack ×2
promoveo 2nd conj
to move forward, advance
provideō, providēre, providī, provisum 2nd conj
foresee ×2
respondeō, respondēre, respondī, responsum 2nd conj
answer
subiaceo 2nd conj
lie under, be subject to
videō, vidēre, vīdī, vīsum 2nd conj
see
accipiō, accipere, accepī, acceptum 3rd conj
take, grasp
attendō, attendere, attendī, attentum 3rd conj
turn
cadō, cadere, cecidī, casum 3rd conj
fall, sink
competo 3rd conj
be suitable, befit ×2
concipiō, concipere, concepī, conceptum 3rd conj
take in
consequor, consequī, consecūtus sum 3rd conj
obtain, attain ×5
dīcō, dīcere, dīxī, dictum 3rd conj
say, speak ×17
egredior, egredī, egressus sum 3rd conj
go
exequor 3rd conj
to carry out, to execute ×3
faciō, facere, fēcī, factum 3rd conj
do, make ×3
flectō, flectere, flexī, flexum 3rd conj
bend, curve
intelligō, intelligere, intellēxī, intellēctum 3rd conj
understand
nascor, nascī, natus sum 3rd conj
be produced spontaneously, come into existence, being ×2
ostendō, ostendere, ostendī, ostentum 3rd conj
show
parcō, parcere, pepercī, parsum 3rd conj
forbear, refrain from
ponō, ponere, posuī, positum 3rd conj
put, place, set
praecedō, praecedere, praecessī, praecessum 3rd conj
go before, precede
procedō, procedere, processī, processum 3rd conj
proceed
satagō, satagere, sategī, satactum 3rd conj
bustle about, fuss
subtrahō, subtrahere, subtraxī, subtractum 3rd conj
carry off
utor, utī, usus sum 3rd conj
use, make use of
impediō, impedīre, impedīvī, impedītum 4th conj
hinder, impede ×4
proveniō, provenīre, provenī, proventum 4th conj
come forth
fīō, fierī, factus sum irreg
happen, come about ×2
possum, posse, potuī irreg
be able, can ×8
sum, esse, fuī, futūrus irreg
be ×23
Adjectives (24)
aeternus, -a, -um 1st
eternal, everlasting ×4
bonus, -a, -um 1st
good ×4
diversus, -a, -um 1st
different, diverse
nūllus, -a, -um (gen. nūllīus) 1st
no ×2
proprius, -a, -um 1st
own, very own
sacer 1st
sacred, holy ×2
suus, -a, -um 1st
his/her/their own ×3
tertius, -a, -um 1st
third
alius, alia, aliud (gen. usually alterīus) 2nd
other, another ×8
certus, -a, -um 2nd
fixed, settled
divinus, -a, -um 2nd
divine, of a deity, god ×5
infirmus, -a, -um 2nd
fragile, frail, feeble
medius, -a, -um 2nd
middle, middle of
primus, -a, -um 2nd
first, foremost, best ×3
sanctus, -a, -um 2nd
holy ×9
secundus, -a, -um 2nd
next, following ×5
superfluus, -a, -um 2nd
superfluous, unnecessary
ūnus, -a, -um (gen. ūnīus) 2nd
one ×4
vester, vestra, vestrum 2nd
your (pl.)
naturalis, -e 3rd
natural, normal ×3
omnis, -e 3rd
all, every
temporalis, -e 3rd
of time ×3
universalis, -e 3rd
universal
huiusmodi adj
such a one ×2
Pronouns (14)
is, ea, id
he, she, it; this, that ×3
nōs, nostrī / nostrum
we
quī, quae, quod
who, which ×8
hic, haec, hoc
this, this one; (adv.) here ×10
īdem, eadem, idem
the same
ille, illa, illud
that; he, she, it ×6
ipse, ipsa, ipsum
himself, herself, itself; very ×3
neuter
neither of two
aliquī, aliqua, aliquod
anyone, anybody, anything ×6
aliquis, aliqua, aliquid
anyone, anybody, anything ×5
quīdam, quaedam, quoddam
a certain one, someone
quis, quid
who? what? ×4
nihil (indēcl.)
nothing ×2
quisquis, quidquid
whoever, whatever ×3
Indeclinables & other (52)
a + abl
from, by ×2
ab + abl
from, by ×2
ad + acc
to, toward ×15
circa + acc
around, on bounds of
contra + acc
against, facing ×3
ex + abl
out of, from
in + abl
in, into, on ×4
per + acc
through ×10
pro + abl
for, on behalf of
propter + acc
because of ×4
secundum + acc
according to
sine + abl
without ×3
sub + abl
under, beneath
supra + acc
above, beyond
aliter adv
otherwise, differently
bene adv
well, very
certitudinaliter adv
with certainty
dupliciter adv
in two ways
ideo adv
therefore ×2
inquantum adv
in so far as ×2
ita adv
thus, so ×2
non adv
not ×20
porro adv
at distance, further on
praeterea adv
besides, furthermore ×2
quantum adv
how much, as far as ×3
scilicet adv
namely, that is to say
sic adv
so, thus ×5
unde adv
from where, whence ×3
aut conj
or, or rather, else
autem conj
but, however ×2
cum conj
when, since
enim conj
namely ×5
ergo conj
therefore ×5
et conj
and ×18
etiam conj
and also, besides, furthermore ×5
igitur conj
therefore, so, then ×3
neque conj
and not, nor ×2
nisi conj
if not ×2
quia conj
because, for ×4
quod conj
because, as far as ×14
sed conj
but ×10
si conj
if, if only
sicut conj
as, just as ×3
ut conj
that, so that; as ×7
vel conj
or ×6
vero conj
yes ×2
duo, duae, duo num
two ×2
octāvus, -a, -um num
eight
quindecim num
fifteen
trēs, tria num
three
undecim num
eleven ×2
viginti num
twenty